Judd Apatow sees the phone conversation between Ben and Alison when they decide to have the child as the turning point of the movie. He believes Alison decides to have the baby for a few reasons. One, she sees the baby's heartbeat, but she also decides to have the baby as an act of rebellion against her "bitchy" mother. This scene is also important, though, because it is the first one where we realize Alison could actually begin to like Ben for who he is. Seth Rogen remembers the only direction Judd Apatow gave him for this scene was to not hold the phone up to his ear, only to talk into it. "It instantly makes me seem like a much more interesting actor than I actually am," says Rogen.

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