Amie de Carlos:
You skipped the demonstration against Pinochet's coup.
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
They bore me shitless and serve no purpose. Demonstrations never change a thing.
Amie de Carlos:
Chileans need to know we're behind them.
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
The Chilean generals and the CIA don't care. Where did picketing the coup in Uruguay get us? They're still killing the Tupamaros. It's war. It can't be won by picketing.
Amie de Carlos:
How then?
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
There are other methods. Words get us nowhere. It's time for action.
Amie de Carlos:
What kind of action?
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
We have to commit.
Amie de Carlos:
Commit to what?
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
To the revolution.
Amie de Carlos:
How do you mean? By covert actions?
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
By resistance. I've formed a group. I want you to join us.
Amie de Carlos:
What kind of group?
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
I can't tell you yet. But we're not nihilists. We want to do good.
Amie de Carlos:
Ilich, fighting capitalism with guerrilla means is romantic, but doomed to failure. No more desperate causes. They lead nowhere.
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
So we do nothing?
Amie de Carlos:
Is that what I do?
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
You talk politics in London cafes. Is that the answer? While they kill our comrades in Chile and Jordan. I told you what I saw.
Amie de Carlos:
The balance of power is against us.
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
A myth.
Amie de Carlos:
Not true. Look at Che! He ended up dead. Despite his experience!
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
Why fight the right in Latin America? You think Latin American dictators operate alone? Gringos pull the strings. Overthrow them and imperialism still wins! I'm advocating an internationalist struggle uniting revolutionaries the world over. Look how the Vietcong disgraced the gringos. Squashed them like shit. The balance of power isn't against us. The fight I propose will lead us to glory.
Amie de Carlos:
Glory? That's what you want. To be admired! That's what drives you. Bourgeois arrogance hidden behind revolutionary rhetoric! Just another selfish, two-bit petit-bourgeois!
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka 'Carlos':
I'm talking about true glory. Not what the Zionist media drones on about. But the pleasure of doing one's duty in silence. Behind every bullet we fire, there will be an idea. Because we act in harmony with our conscience. You say I'm arrogant? I guess I am. For defending the innocent. You know what? You'll be hearing my name a lot. What's more, it's no longer Ilich. My name is Carlos.

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Carlos (2010)

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